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Volume autoradio

Discussione in 'Hi-Fi Car, Navigation systems & Car-Theatre BMW' iniziata da mastercut, 21 Marzo 2005.

  1. mastercut

    mastercut Kartista

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    chi sa dirmi come si fa a toglire dalla autoradio il limite del volume max.Mi spigo arrivati ad un certo punto il volume pur girando la manopola non si alza più , Perchè? ancora più un problema con ipod che si sente veramente basso.
    ciao
     
  2. stecca975

    stecca975 Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    Re: Volume autoradio

    io non ho l'ipod, ma se ha il volume magari alzi quello dell'ipod...
     
  3. mastercut

    mastercut Kartista

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    una volta collegato l'ipod è svicolato dal software dell'interfaccia, quidi anche se alzo il volume al max non capita niente.....ahh comunque per chio fosse interessato leggete di seguito e capirete come bmw venda delle interfacce non testate e con molti problemi.

    Codice:
    Hello,
    
    I've been following this thread since it was posted. I have had the same problem with my 2004 X3 and 3rd generation iPod.
    
    The issue is NOT caused by a bad installation (the install is very, very simple and takes only five minutes) or a bad interface kit. The issue is the model (X3) and build date (before 10/05). Here's the long story...
    
    1- This is a KNOWN issue (that is, known by BMW) with the X3 and 3rd generation iPods. The affected vehicles were built BEFORE October 2004 (10/04). The trouble is in both the radio head unit and the vehicle's wiring. Vehicles built after 10/04 have new radios and a new wiring harness. The issue is caused by an INTERACTION between the car's wiring, the radio head unit, and the iPod's charging/battery unit. The noise (distortion) will be greatest when the iPod is charging its battery. The low volume problem is caused by the radio. There are no adjustments or installation issues involved at all. It is really a compatibility issue (even though Apple and BMW say that all X3s are supported by the interface kit and any iPod after the 3rd generation).
    
    Be aware that many dealers will NOT know about this issue (it only affects certain X3s when a 3rd generation iPod is used). Most likely, they will follow their regular troubleshooting procedures to narrow down the problem to first the interface kit (they will replace it and find that it doesn't fix the issue). Then, they will try to replace the radio (which also doesn't fix the issue). If they then contact BMW's central service help department by email, they will learn that this is a known issue. The advice given by the central BWM service department will be to try a new radio (the model now being installed in the 2005 X3s). If this fixes the problem (but they admit it likely won't), then the dealer is to CHARGE the customer for the new radio. They also suggest replacing the battery in the iPod with a newer unit (the one that Apple is using in current refurb units or units returned for a new battery). However, because the problem is ALSO caused by the wiring harness in the X3, neither of these solutions (i.e., new radio or new iPod battery) is a reasonable or cost-effective solution. The BEST solution is to use a newer model iPod (that is, to sell your old one and buy a new one) as described next.
    
    2- The problem is GREATLY reduced when a 4th generation (Click-Wheel) iPod or an iPod mini (1st generation tested so far) is used in the affected vehicle. The reduction in hiss (distortion) is so good that it is noticable only in quiet passages (such as between songs) with the radio volume turned way up. Whether or not the reduction makes the setup "acceptable" to you is another matter (that is, it won't be "perfect"). Interestingly, my dealer and I discovered this together by taking a test drive with my 3rd gen iPod and their 4th gen iPod. We knew something was wrong with the iPod when the same songs played differently on the two iPods. This lead to my dealer contacting BMW a second time. Only on the second inquiry did they learn that this is a known issue.
    
    3- The low volume issue is also addressed (but not entirely corrected) by using a 4th generation iPod. This means that you don't have to crank the volume up way, way high to hear the iPod at a comfortable level. Using a 4th gen iPod still requires turning the volume up such that switching to the radio means a quick turn down to avoid ear strain.
    
    To make my decision of what to do after learning about this issue, I borrowed the dealer's 4th generation iPod for a weekend. I put all my music on it and drove around for an hour playing it. I've decided that because I've already invested $300 in the interface kit (hardware and installation) I will buy a newer iPod rather than have the dealer remove the kit (note they won't refund my money for the labor, but they will "buy back" the kit).
    
    By the way, I did ask my local APPLE dealer if I can try a 2nd generation iPod mini (6GB) when they have one available for demonstration (later this week). If that works OK, then I'll buy one of those. I've decided that I don't need to take lots of my music library on the road in my X3. Because of the way I use the five (5) BMW playlists, I don't need more than a few gigabytes of room at a time. (As a side note, I've learned that Apple will not support the BMW interface kit. Because my iPod plays fine when used with headphones, they consider it to be "working" and will not replace it or change the battery. Also, my Apple dealer had never even seen a BMW with an iPod interface installed.)
    
    I hope this long post helps someone who's had the same problem I've had. It has been a long, frustrating experience both for me and my dealer. I will add that my dealer has been totally supportive and helpful in wanting to resolve this issue to my satisfaction. They admit that neither BMW or Apple has offered any training on the iPods to the dealers. (Another note: I did get some good-will in my favor when I offered to "train" the dealer's staff on the use of iTunes and the iPod in concert with the BMW. They were very happy to see how it works and what all the options mean in terms of music compression and playlists and the like. They now know not to install an interface kit in a 2004 X3.)
    
    If anyone would like more details, please write to me. All of this information was CONFIRMED by written correspondence (which I have a copy of) between my dealer and BWM's central department
    -Wally
    
     

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