Mi Sembrava Strano Che Non La Facessero... :wink::wink: APPENA LETTO IN RETE L'ARTICOLO IN OGGETTO: la faranno...la faranno..... E sarà probabilmente talmente innovativa da rimettere di nuovo tutte le pedine al loro posto con la concorrenza. Mi scuso ma non ho il tempo per tradurre l'articolo.... Re: CAR Magazine: BMW CANCELING E92 M3 CSL - 08-26-2008, 07:44 PM And so the hatred commences , hardly surprising since most were consumed by the Chris Bangle Design era. As before I have discussed the current situation within BMW. Marketing exercises known as Vanity projects have been replaced by further development within " BMW Efficient Dynamics" Why? Sustainability and the ability to produce cars that can be efficient and well within restrictions for the future. We want to be on the road when everyone else is being forced off. The future is not all hybrids although each BMW model will feature an Active Hybrid model starting with the X6 , X5 and 7er this will eventually spread through the PAS,5er,3er, 1er etc. More developments are on the way under Efficient Dynamics that will make regular petrol models meet their targets. Right now the focus is on the image generated by small premium cars such as the rise in success of the 1er products which will also follow through with the X1 and in the next generation model with a Z2 Roadster and a variant under the forthcoming Progressive Activity Sedan. Surprisingly now BMW have returned to the shelf regarding the current 1er and will launch alternative models aimed at keeping the small premium BMW line intact until the next generation. Again I repeat the plans for the CSL models radically changed when Efficient Dynamics became the priority , Lightweight materials although the norm were the main consideration but now advances in Efficient Dynamics will effectively become the main talking point for BMW's M-Division. The new plans for the M3 CSL will showcase the lightweight ideas for the future and the technology. The first that will use KERS Technology will be a model from M-Division, as of now that technology is work in progress and as of now our engineers are making great progress in sorting out the glitches , But it will be ready and available one day. The M3 CSL was the first model expected to be the groundbreaking BMW to receive this technology but the technology is still very much in development and in infancy. To launch a CSL today would be counter-productive to the current car when our talking point would be the PS output. But we like to bring lots more to the conversation and as of now we cannot. Maybe I am getting tired of repeating myself but seldom few take the message that M-Division will become the absolute "pinacle" of Efficient Dynamics. There is a lot we have learned by our current M models - Lightweight materials as one , The need for better and larger fuel tanks , and inspired by our GINA exercise Active Aerodynamics. Which in several BMW models today behind the kidney grille flaps open and close improving airflow - The essence of the GINA Concept today. More the reason Why? Why change the direction? Why not follow the competitors? Why not produce a Vanity project like this manufacturer? Some people do not understand that BMW is not like any other manufacturer we want each product to be a typical BMW whether it is a SAV or Roadster , Touring or indeed a progressive Activity Sedan It still remains a BMW so there would be no sacrifice in typical BMW attributes. Today we are accustomising to what will happen and preparing ourselves to what is over the horizon, Will The world head into recession? we do not know but current climate is not so clear. For now it's sustainability and what we are doing is gearing up to that, tomorrow however is another day. I would not say that we are being (Gay?) as someone harshly put it , But being more sensible with comments like "Efficient Dynamics" and the Hydrogen 7 project is just marketing by our rivals. Suggests that our success in this area is getting to them , We focused on environmental developments first when they were focusing on beating BMW . When you actually realise they have not. ED ECCO IL COMMENTO DI UN TIZIO CHE DA ANNI E' REPUTATO UN INSIDER BMW ASSOLUTAMENTE AFFIDABILE, TANTO DA AVER FATTO CIRCOLARE LE IMMAGINI DELLA M3 NUOVA, ANCOR PRIMA DELLA PRESENTAZIONE A GINEVRA: There will be a M3 CSL. What you have seem to forgotten is that the E92 M3 only arrived in September 2007. We are not even a Year past. Even less so for North America and other markets. Sure in the space of the year we have had the launch of the E92,E90 and E93 M3 models. But these are are only variants suited to each segment respectively. The M3 CSL will be a continuation of the M3 series but not whilst the car is over a year old on the market which is why you must have patience. Each M3 series is a high level than what had gone before and that progression features heavily in every new generation also this has to established in the market. The M3 CSL will not appear over night as will the performance variations of the BMW 1er Coupe (again not even a year old). But with each generation the M3 progresses several layers above each model. As previously The way to go is Lightweight whilst the focus remains on lightweight construction , BMW want to make these bearers for "Efficient Dynamics". "Efficient Dynamics" will feature heavily in future BMW performance cars, PS output and driving feel is one step , But normally unheard of "efficiency"will be a key word also. What BMW wanted to do originally has now changed direction in terms of how much lightweight technology will be used and you can expect more than what had been seen before. recent closed door tests included a M3 and a 1er Coupe using different construction techniques and materials and more PS output to their respective production engines to their road car brothers. Whilst original models were thought of along with the M6 . BMW eventually realised there was more to offer with these cars and scrapped the original ideas. Hence why the concept of the CSL series is very much work -in-progress. It is very much probable that the production car will be considerably more expensive than it's road car brother but what you will get is a highly individual M3 model in every respect from it's road car brother . Miracles do not happen overnight that is why you have about two years to go. LA FANNO LA FANNO...:wink::wink: L'ARTICOLO ERA REALE MA CON UN TITOLO PROVOCATORIO. IN REALTA' NON HANNO ANCORA RESO PRATICABILE LA TECNOLOGIA CHE IL NUOVO CORSO BMW, VANTERA' PER PRIMA NEL PANORAMA AUTOMOBILISTICO.E PER CIO' ASPETTANO....MA CI STANNO LAVORANDO PESANTEMENTE.... ERO CERTO CHE LA REALTA' FOSSE MOLTO PIU APPAGANTE E CHE I LORO MANAGER NON SIANO DEL TUTTO DEGLI INETTI:-))) questo si , sarebbe il modo di rispondere ai Fan ed ai concorrenti....
io vengo abbastanza spesso; fino a due anni fa ci abitavo (senza famiglia), perchè lavoravo al Lingotto per una società Fiat che si occupa di pubblicità Appena so di dover andare te lo faccio sapere per tempo così se riusciamo, organizziamo
...se la faranno...allora un pò di invidia comincerà a venirmi...avrà sicuramente un prezzo che si aggirerà sui 100.000 barbettoni....però a quel punto..se avessi quella cifra da spendere...aggiungerei qualcosa sopra e andrei su altro
interessante... certo però che se il prezzo schizza alle stelle dovranno tirar fuori qualcosa di spettacolare, altrimenti tanto vale rivolgersi altrove...
ciao Andrew...tornando al discorso dei pesi... volevo chiederti se c'è differenza di peso tra una M E46 con cambio SMG 2 ed una manuale.... a parità di optional naturalmante.... grazie :wink:
per quanto riguarda la nuova M3 E92 CSL ho trovato questo articolo.... http://www.omniauto.it/magazine/3576/la-nuova-bmw-m3-csl-si-avvicina sembra sia ufficiale ormai, viste le prove effettuate al Nurburgring.... ....voi che ne dite ?
Sono curioso di vedere se quanti (tanti) hanno criticato la M3 attuale per il peso, semmai BMW la farà, poi correranno in concessionario ad ordinare la futura CSL non appena sarà disponibile :wink:
Autozeitung parlava di poco meno di 90.000 euro. Sono sempre 22.000 euro circa piu della versione normale...Vedremo...
