[Reportage] Installazione specchietti ribaltabili elettricamente su E46

eccola qua..arrivata

 

in pratica gli specchi non è possibile ripiegarli al di sopra di una certa velocità....forse serve a quello!

 

sicuramente prenderà il segnale odometrico per la velocità.

 

si ma quello dove va collegato? non l'ha indicato!

 

ecco capito... se non è indispensabile allora resta senza niente :) /emoticons/smile@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /> tanto mi ricordo da solo di aprirli :) /emoticons/smile@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />

con la chiusura a chiave invece, funzionano da soli, non cè nbisogno di fare niente...? si chiudono insieme a vetri e tettuccio ?

 

ma l'apertura a 30 km/h la mia non ce l'ha....mica è possibile metterla per caso???

 

Ciao a tutti

si può fare questo lavoro su una e92?

 

non saprei. Io ho provato al contrario: oltre i 30 km/h non si chiudono /emoticons/wink@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 

si è giusto che funzionino così!

 

Per gli spechi con i mototrini,il cablaggio e la nuova pulsantiera ok,

ma in Bmw ce la fanno a farmi la codifica?

Io ero intenzionato a montare gli specchi M3 originali.

 

ho fatto tutto seguendo lo schema...funziona!! tranne con la chiusura centralizzata, insieme ai vetri....immagino che andrà senz'altro attivata la funzione key memory.

se qualcuno vuole avere anche i codici del connettore e faston ecco qua

 

a me anche attivato non andava invece :-(

 

no? infatti la mia mente pensava a come potesse funzionare anche attivandolo...dovrebbe avere una connessione anche con il modulo della chiusura centralizzata altrimenti chi glielo da l'input? la fusibiliera cmq non sono riuscito a smontarla per infilare il faston...ho messo un fusibile esterno, stavo impazzendo alla fine ho messo un maschio nel posto del fusibile, che andava esternamente e nascosto, alla centralina...in mezzo ho messo un portafusibile tipo autoradio e nascosto tutto

 

This is an awesome write up!

PART ONE: BMW made at least four types of mirror control switches in as many as six colors for the E46 cars.

On the top side the switches for the mirrors all look the same. However, what each switch really does can only truly be identified by the color of the bottom side of those switches (or also by the parts numbers).

This is the top side of the switch for manual folding mirrors:



On the bottom side of the manual folding switch we have these three color types:

-Black bottom switches work with non-memory manual folding mirrors.



-Grey bottom switches are mainly found in European cars with non-memory manual folding mirrors.

(Although not 100% confirmed these Grey switches may provide the tilt-reverse function on Euro cars with non-memory/non-powered seat)



-Turquiose bottom switches go with memory manual folding mirrors.



This is the top side of the switch for power folding mirrors:



On the bottom side and we have some more colors:

-Yellow bottom switches go with non-memory power folding mirrors on cars without memory and no power adjust seats.



-White bottom switches go with non-memory power folding mirrors found on cars with memory power adjust seats.

(This rare White switch is mainly found on pre 9/99 European cars that had this uncanny combination of memory power seats with non memory power folding mirrors)



-Purple bottom switches will work on cars with memory power folding mirrors and memory power adjust seats.



For the remainder of this DIY guide I will just refer to the switch as the color of the bottom side. So when I write the words "Yellow switch" it will be referring to a switch that has a yellow colored bottom. For early production year E46 and some European E46 cars you may come across a color bottom that is different from what I list here. There could be a multitude of reasons for that but for the most part 99% of E46 cars will have one of these 4 switch types in any of the 6 colors I've mentioned.

PART TWO: BMW made two types of mirrors for the E46 cars:

1. Memory mirrors that operate in cars built after 09/1999 which have memory power adjust seats.



2. Non-Memory mirrors that operate in cars with no memory and no power adjust seats. Non-memory mirrors also come on ALL E46 cars made before 09/1999.

 

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PART THREE: The most important facet of the E46 mirrors that distinguish them apart is how they connect to the car.

1. Both Memory manual folding and power folding mirrors use identical 12 pin-connectors to receive memory, tilt and fold in/fold out commands from the car.



These mirrors simply connect to the car via control modules also called memory modules. Both manual folding and power folding memory mirrors use the same control "memory" module that sits inside each door under each side mirror. These in-door control modules are what provide the mirrors with memory, tilt and power-fold commands.



If your car already has power and memory seats then already it also has these control modules in the doors and you do not need to buy them or replace them when upgrading to power folding memory mirrors.



Again I will reiterate when retrofitting memory power-fold mirrors onto a car with memory/power adjust seats you do not need to buy or replace these control modules. You also should not need to code the control memory modules to fold the mirrors. However, once installed the car will have to be coded to remote control fold the mirrors via the key fob under the convenience features. Cars that have an Intravee II running Version 6.02 installed can also be coded thru Intravee's i-Bus controller to have the mirrors "convenience" fold and unfold a bunch of ways.

Said and done once installed these mirrors will immediately power fold and unfold right away with just the use of the power folding mirror switch.

To update the switch you would need to only replace the turquoise manual folding mirror switch in your car with the purple power folding mirror switch. The switches both use the same connector and are direct plug and play.





Once you have the power folding mirrors and the purple switch then the rest of the DIY is simple plug and play. This type of retrofit is more prevalent in the USA and Canada since more E46 cars in the USA came with memory and power seats.

The DIY is also a simple plug and play project even for the eBay M3 Replica kits that work off the OEM purple power folding switch since the purple switch is all you would need to buy after you get the power folding mirrors.



2. In stark contrast, Non-Memory mirrors connect very differently to the car.

Manual folding mirrors will connect to the car and the Black (or in some cars Gray) manual folding mirror switch using 6 pin connectors that have 5 or less wires leaving the mirror base.





When you have Non-Memory mirrors that are power folding you will have 5 wires on the 6 pin connector at each mirror and a extra 2 pin connector with two wires leaving one of the mirrors.



This 2 pin wire receives the fold in/fold out command from the Yellow or White power folding mirror switch via a non-memory power folding control module box that sits behind the glove box.





This makes retrofitting Non-Memory mirrors onto a car with non-memory, manual adjust seats a bit more tricky because you need to buy the non memory power folding control module and install it behind the glove box in order to send the power fold commands to the Non-Memory mirrors from the power folding mirror switch. It is also unclear if this module would need coding to get the mirrors to fold right away from the switch. However, this type of mirror can be coded for the key fob remote "convenience" either using an aftermarket device or the OEM coding methods.





A good thing is they are lots of aftermarket non memory power folding modules and parts that cater to the difficulties of installing non memory power folding mirrors in non-memory E46 cars. They are a few threads on them in the DIY section. More information on what kits to get can be found by using Google Search. You will also find this type of retrofit will be more prevalent in Europe and the parts of the world where more E46 cars did not come with memory or powered seats.



3. The E46 BMW Ribbon BUS Revolution of March 2003!

In 3/2003 BMW extended the Memory BUS system to the mirrors which now used ribbon connectors. This created a new set of mirror part numbers for cars after 03/2003.

The ribbon mirrors as they are called still used the same memory control modules as previously used in the 9/99 up to 3/03 cars that came with memory seats. So this retrofit would entail the same journey as before under the memory-power folding retrofit for cars 9/99 up to 3/03. Just get the mirrors and the switch and plug and play them. The only question is whether the car would need dealership coding to get the mirror switch and key fob to fold the mirrors.

Furthermore it is another mystery as to what control module is used on the non memory manual adjust seat cars after 3/2003 for non memory power folding mirrors. The parts database does not show any specific control module that exists for non memory cars after 3/2003.





The final and biggest mystery concerning the non memory mirrors is that the BMW P/Ns for non memory power fold mirrors stays the same from 09/1997 all the way to 2006. I'm not sure if that means BMW didn't update the P/Ns or the actual non-memory power folding mirror housing and wiring stays unchanged for non memory cars over the years. Meaning these cars do not use a ribbon BUS system in the mirrors.

 

Hello delmarco!! Your nickname isn't new for me... thankyou for your post!!

 

Nice tutorial!!! thanks.

 

Good tutorial Delmarco!!

I saw it and all your mode on e46fantatics.

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