N54 Powerdome: V3/AA/JB3/JB/GIAC REFLASH/Airbox/DPs/IC/Exhaust/Popoffs/BTscan

Discussione in 'Meccanica ed elettronica BMW' iniziata da DESHI BASARA, 6 Giugno 2008.

  1. enrita

    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    Oggi tiro' su la pressione ragazzi :-) si comincia a fare sul serio ancora. Metto max 17 psi e UT50% (quindi comincia da 15psi) e IC correction 50%. voglio proprio vedere dopo un paio di tirate come l'autotuning mette a posto i valori.
     
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    Enri io con la mia che ho solo scarico tengo ut 35 e metto Max 15.. Quindi a 15 PSI dovrebbe tagliare... Che dici? Ora ho 16 e ogni tanto mi limpa...
     
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    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    se sei originale (con le nuovissime mappe autotuning) lascia ut 35 e Max 15 con IC correction 50%. Fai un paio di 3-4 a manetti e guarda come l'autotuning ha settato la macchina.
     
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    Vedere come l ha settata in che senso? Io leggo il valore della press con il manometro nel fuel level...e basta... QUOTE=enrita;4437789]se sei originale (con le nuovissime mappe autotuning) lascia ut 35 e Max 15 con IC correction 50%. Fai un paio di 3-4 a manetti e guarda come l'autotuning ha settato la macchina.
     
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    l'autotuning a che percentuali massime di autoadattamento arriva?
     
  6. enrita

    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    devi guardare con il computer collegato al cavo per vedere come si setta cavolo e' da un po che hai il procede :wink:
     
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    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    5 psi da il valore impostato a quello massimo . Quindi si puo anche mettere UT 50% (15psi) e boost massimo 20 psi . Da li con varie tirate trova il valore di boost e ritardo anticipo ideali. il problema a mettere un valore di 5 psi e' che ci mette piu tempo ad adattarsi.
     
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    io con il pc facevo dei log e basta...

    l autotune cè da poco, se intendi usare il procede reader per fare dei log e visionare l adattamento allora ho capito, altrimenti per capire come lavora l autotune con un determinato programma allora dimmi quale usare.... thank

    devi guardare con il computer collegato al cavo per vedere come si setta cavolo e' da un po che hai il procede :wink:
     
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    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    con il programma std. Vishnu e logs
     
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    enri ho capito quello lo uso dai....

    semplicemente ti sto chiedendo che parametri guardare per capire se l autotune si è adattato e come... io noto solo che dopo i 4000 giri la pressione aumenta ancora di piu...

    con il programma std. Vishnu e logs
     
  11. enrita

    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    Praticamente logga debug 2 e debug 5

    -Currently Boost Autotuning is only active in both standard injection mode or progressive methanol mode. This means that Injection Mode must be equal to 0 (standard injection) or 1-99 (progressive methanol). If set to progression methanol mode, autotuning is only active when methanol flow is above the meth flow threshold. If methanol is disabled or runs dry, autotuning will stop and the car will run on the Map1 settings. For more info on how progressive methanol autotuning works, see here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403236

    -Autotuning is also only active when oil temp is between 170 and 270F. So don't expect it to work when your car is cold. You can see the status of the AutoTuning system by monitoring Debug Byte 3. 0= not active. 1= active.

    -Boost Autotuning is has the authority to adjust boost pressure by +/-5psi. This means a total adjustment range of 10psi. The lowest boost setting is 10psi. The highest is your start boost plus 5psi or the Overboost value, whatever comes first.

    -The Maximum Boost value in the user adjustable menu now defines the upper AutoTune limit for boost pressure. Boost will not rise above that value regardless of how low aggression target is.

    -Ignition correction Autotuning has full authority to move Ignition Correction anywhere from 0 to 100%, depending on conditions. To help things out, it's always a good idea to set your initial ignition correction, right in the middle, at 50%.

    -As before, both Boost and Ignition Correction autotune values reset to default/initial values when you conduct a DTC mapswitch. If no DTC mapswich is conducted, the autotuned values are persistent upon ignition power off/on.

    -There are a few new debug channels added to the datalog setup files (see attached). So make sure you put them in your "Procede" folder like usual. You'll see one of the new channels in the user software window (debugbyte 5). This represents the current autotuned User Boost level just like debugbyte 2 represents current autotuned Ignition correction.

    -When driving, it is normal to see debugbyte 2 and debugbyte 5 change independently of each other at times. At other times, you will see them change at the same time. The AutoTuning logic is still in it's early stages so expect enhancements/changes over the next few months. But as is, it still works very well. And, if anything, it errs on the conservative side which is a nice place to start.

    -To adjust base wastegate position, you will adjust the Wastegate Position user adjustable. The default value is 90%. If your car has wastegate rattle during idle, light cruise and decceleration conditions, try reducing this value. Reducing this value, will move the wastegates more open during these conditions. At the mimimum value of 30%, wastegates will be fully open. PLEASE NOTE that this feature only works during very light load conditions. If your wastegates rattle at moderate to full load, there is nothing we can do as moving wastegate position will have a negative effect on boost control. As such, this fix only works during off-boost, light load conditions. At the very least, you will be able to reduce the severity of the rattle. At best, you may be able to eliminate it completely. Try to keep this value as high as possible in order to maximize initial tip-in boost response.

    GETTING STARTED:

    As before, Map1 is set to run initial/starting settings of 13.5psi and 50% ignition correction. Map is set at 14.5psi and 50% ignition correction. Stock or mildly modified cars can start off on map1. More modified cars can start off on map2. Although after a bit of autotuning, both maps will become the same, so this isn't even important. But it's always more desirable to start off conservatively and let the Procede's autotuning logic make things more aggressive-- instead of the other way around. Of course, you can always change these initial/start values as you see fit. Just keep in mind that Boost Autotune has a limited adustment range (+/- 5psi). So if you expect Map2 to be an autotuning 20psi 110oct race gas dragstrip map, you'll have to have a start boost/UT setting of at least 15psi.

    IMPORTANT:

    You must reset learning (by DCT mapswitching) after making User Torque or Ignitionn Correction changes to the User Adjustable menu. If you don't, the Procede will have to relearn around the changes you just made which, if big, will take some time and possible make the tune temporarily too aggressive.

    HOW TO TEST:

    The nice thing about AutoTuning, is there is not much for you to do. In this case, just pick either Map1 or Map2 and drive. And let the Procede do the rest. If you want to speed up the learning process, doing a few 3rd gear full throttle pulls (4000rpm to redline) will help since Autotuning is only active at WOT and full boost. For the purpose of testing, run standard injection mode (Future Use 1=0) as Boost Autotune is not functional in Progressive meth or Nitrous mode.
     
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    cammand center

    io non capisco bene il funzionamento del command center....

    Hi guys,

    As some of you know, we keep pretty busy here with innovation. We think you guys will like this new update and all the new stuff yet to come of it. This free firmware update should be posted up for public download by Monday or Tuesday. In the meantime, I'll be sending it out to some beta folks tonight.

    Please excuse the production quality of this video. First time using iMovie and I'm a terrible public speaker[​IMG] And also ignore the revving engine at 1:18. It's from a neighbor's Ducati. I could only wish the n54 sounded like that!

    This reference guide will be updated as we add new features/functionality. But right off the bat, it's got some pretty useful stuff. Don't be surprised if we eventually have 8 modes with 20+ commands in each.

    [​IMG]

    Summary:

    We we did was re-vamp the way you control your Procede tune/tune options. And we did it with a simple intuitive (and very upgradeable) interface that doesn't require the use of a laptop computer. And instead of having random button pressing sequences that you need to remember, you will now only need to keep a reference guide handy and use the cruise control stalk/button and steering wheel volume buttons to navigate through the wealth of new features/options. These new features include include various useful adaption reset commands, in-dash gauge display calibration options, and new mapswitching functionality.

    Details:

    The Vishnu Command Center only works with the ignition ON but engine not running. To enable the Command Center, simply pull the cruise control stalk fully towards you (2 clicks) and hold for 1 second. Immediately, your tachometer will show 1000rpm or Mode 1. To go to different modes, simply push or pull the stalk (1 click). Mode 2, 3, etc,. will be represented by 2000, 3000, etc,. on the tach, respectively.

    Within each mode, there are a number of commands as listed in the reference guide (see attached). To select the desired command, simply bump the cruise control stalk up or down. The active command is represented by KPH in the speedometer. Command 1, 2, 3, etc,. is represented by 10KPH, 20KPH, 30KPH, etc,. To execute the selected command, simply press the button on the cruise control stalk. When you do this, the in-dash turn signal indicators will light up for a moment. This indicates that the command was sent successfully.

    Currently, most of the commands are simply "one shot" commands which require nothing more than pressing the button on the cruise control stalk to execute. The only current exception is the the 2-Stage Shift-Light RPM Adjust command which allows the user to adjust it to their liking. Upon executing the Shift-Light RPM adjust command (with cruise control stalk button), the tach will display 8000RPM which is the default Shift-Light RPM value (effectively OFF). To adjust the RPM value, simply use the volume up/down buttons on the steering wheel. The RPM value is adjustable between 5000RPM and 8000RPM in 100RPM increments. In future updates we, well add more settings. And more of them will be adjustable like this one.

    To exit out of the Vishnu Command Center simple start the engine or push the cruise control stalk forward 2 clicks.

    In summary, with this new update you can use the Vishnu Command Center do the following:

    Adjust a 2-Stage Shift-Light RPM


    Select in-dash Gauge Calibration



    Select in-dash Gauge Display Options



    DME Code Read



    DME Code Clear



    DME Reset



    Throttle Adaption Reset



    Lambda Adaption Reset



    AFR Adaption Reset



    Battery Adaption Reset



    Knock Adaption Reset



    Octane Adaption Reset



    VANOS Adaption Reset



    VVT Adaption Reset



    6AT Trans Adaption Reset



    Transport Mode On (4500RPM rev limit)



    Transport Mode Off (7000RPM rev limit)



    ... with much more to come soon.


    It's also worth mentioning that you can now switch between maps using the Cruise Control Stalk. All you need to do is bump and hold (for 1 second) the cruise control stalk up or down. Pushing it up will increase the map # selection. Dropping it down will lower it. The advantage of this mapswitching method (compared to the still-active DTC double-click method) is that it doesn't have the potential interfere with your current DCT setting.

     
  13. MuCcIo

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    Non capisco il valore UT del V4...
     
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    esempo! UT=50 avrai 15 PSI di pressione, altro esempio UT=35 avrai 13.5 PSI di pressione. Semplice! Puoi impostare UT da 10 a 100 quindi da 10 a 20 PSI! QUOTE=MuCcIo;4439368]Non capisco il valore UT del V4...
     
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    MuCcIo Presidente Onorario BMW

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    Chiarissimo. Grazie. 8-[

    :wink:

    Nuova firma... speriamo bene...
     
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  16. enrita

    enrita Amministratore Delegato BMW

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    azzarola UT50%... e' una bomba, peccato che piova . la macchina va benissimo e "suppia" che e' una bellezza. Sto procede e' veramente favoloso. Mi andava molto su di boost in cambiata a marce basse. Ho messo Upshift softening a 10 e .. sparito completamente :-) ha una risposta gas spaventosa, sabato prima gara ;-)
     
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    enrita, ma dalle tue parti ogni sabato si corre? :D /emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />

    Dove stai che mi trasferisco? :D /emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />
     
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    Finalmente diamo a Cesare ciò che e di Cesare! Che picchi hai in cambiata? QUOTE=enrita;4440143]azzarola UT50%... e' una bomba, peccato che piova . la macchina va benissimo e "suppia" che e' una bellezza. Sto procede e' veramente favoloso. Mi andava molto su di boost in cambiata a marce basse. Ho messo Upshift softening a 10 e .. sparito completamente :-) ha una risposta gas spaventosa, sabato prima gara ;-)
     
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    Azzo enri pero così quelli del jb3 nn scrivono più un *****! Li stai demoralizzando tutti!
     
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    Ovviamente poi V4!

     

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